Ten post ma pro艣ciutk膮 struktur臋. Jest po艂膮czeniem poprzednio ju偶 opublikowanego posta pod tytu艂em "Sztuka (zapis) 艣wi臋towania 80-lecia szko艂y... i jedno艣ci ponadpokoleniowej" i podcastu w wersji angielskiej, opracowanego przez sztuczn膮 inteligencj臋 na jego podstawie (materiale/tre艣ci), kt贸remu AI nada艂a tytu艂 "A Tapestry of Memory and Identity".
Pomys艂 jest nie m贸j. Syna. Zaskoczy艂 mnie t膮 pr贸b膮. Dla mnie to nowy 艣wiat. Musia艂em nad tym si臋 natrudzi膰, by odkry膰 jego mo偶liwo艣ci. Tzn. odkrywa膰, bo jestem nowicjuszem i st膮pam po powierzchni wsp贸艂czesnych technologii ICT.
Ws艂uchuj臋 si臋 w audio podcastu, ale przecie偶 nie wszystko wy艂api臋. Wi臋c spr贸bowa艂em przerobi膰 na tekst. S膮 maszyny, programy, algorytmy. Nazywa si臋 to 'konwertowa膰'.
OK. Ale nic nie jest doskona艂e na Ziemi, jak mawia艂 Ma艂y Ksi膮偶臋 Saint Exuperego. Przek艂amania w poszczeg贸lnych wersjach maj膮 r贸偶ne 藕r贸d艂a.
Po pierwsze, AI zrobi艂o podcast w j臋zyku angielskim z polskiego orygina艂u. M贸j j臋zyk i styl nie trzymaj膮 si臋 schemat贸w gramatycznych, wi臋c i AI nie da rady.
Po drugie - polskie nazwy, z polskimi znakami (trzcionkami) s膮 jeszcze nieprzet艂umaczalne, albo bardzo wprowadzaj膮ce maszyny w b艂膮d
Zrobi艂em korekt臋. I tu pojawi艂o si臋, "po trzecie". To znaczy dylemat, jak naprawi膰 tekst? Naj艂atwiej przez przet艂umaczenie orygina艂u. Ale... Podcast nabra艂 innej formy i si臋ga w tekst i znaczenia orygina艂u z poziomu rozm贸wc贸w i ich inteligencji, ich pr贸bie odczytywania moich my艣li i sformu艂owa艅. Wi臋c nie mog艂em wklei膰 t艂umaczenia z orygina艂u, ale i艣膰 a tokiem rozumowania Rozm贸wcy A i Rozm贸wcy B (tego, w czym艣 takim - dialogu - jeszcze nie uczestniczy艂em, ani przerabia艂em, ani mog艂em sobie nawet dopu艣ci膰 w wyobra藕ni).
W sumie - spora praca, na cztery dni. 艁atwiej mi napisa膰 ni偶 obrobi膰 komputerowo.
Ale jestem zafascynowany t膮 prac膮. Bo to jest "praca w pocie swego czo艂a" (C. Norwid). Do艣wiadczy艂em na sobie - z pomoc膮 pomys艂owo艣ci syna z Edynburga - nowych mo偶liwo艣ci... i to nie tylko w redagowaniu, publikowaniu... Ale - a偶 w funkcjonowaniu os贸b w 艣wiecie wsp贸艂czesnym. Ze smutn膮 refleksj膮, id膮c膮 w parze.
Smutna refleksja dotyczy naszego polskiego, gminno-parafialnego 偶ycia w XXI wieku. Od niego nie dostaj臋 (prawie wcale) bod藕c贸w rozwojowych. To gminno-parafialne 偶ycie dzieje si臋 jakby w ubieg艂ej epoce. Nie zna (nie znaj膮) poj臋膰 i rzeczywisto艣ci tzw. kapita艂贸w ludzkich i spo艂ecznych. Nie mo偶na by膰 nowoczesnym, ignoruj膮c nauk臋. NIC NAM/LUDZKO艢CI PO SZTUCZNEJ... JE艢LI NIE B臉DZIEMY UMIELI SKORZYSTA膯 ZE ZWYK艁EJ/LUDZKIEJ. INTELIGENCJI!
Nikt st膮d nie wchodzi ze mn膮 w dialog. Z moim kapita艂em, jaki zosta艂 mi dany przez moj膮 konkretn膮-osobow膮 Drog臋-Prawd臋-呕ycie, tutaj, na tej ziemi - odnowionej zes艂aniem Ducha 艢wi臋tego!? Sztuczna inteligencja ma dawa膰 to, czego nie daje wsp贸lnota realna (ziemska, lokalna, narodowa, gminna, parafialna)! A to si臋 narobi艂o. Ale to nie jest najlepsze rozwi膮zanie naszych ludzkich-osobowych spraw na tej Ziemi. Deficyt odpowiednich cech wali, charakteru, wiary i rozumu... 藕le rokuje. Nie tylko w rozwoju 偶ycia spo艂ecznego. Wszelkiego.
Dobi艂em prawie do brzegu. Zrobi艂em - jak umia艂em - korekt臋 przekonwertowanego podcastu. Nie jest wiec, si艂膮 rzeczy, dos艂ownym odwzorowaniem. Bo ani moja znajomo艣膰 j臋zyka angielskiego, ani technik komputerowych, na to nie pozwala. Ale i tak jest wi臋cej ni偶 zadowolony. Wchodz臋 w nowy 艣wiat (jeszcze za 偶ycia).
Okaza艂o si臋, ju偶 na tym etapie przetwarzania, 偶e mog艂em p贸j艣膰 jeszcze dalej. Syn mi napisa艂, 偶e s膮 wi臋ksze mo偶liwo艣ci: "A wiesz 偶e mo偶esz te偶 uczestniczy膰 w tym podca艣cie? W sensie - wchodzi膰 w ten dialog w czasie rzeczywistym?". Oczywi艣cie, 偶e nie wiedzia艂em. Ale ju偶 sobie wyobra偶am, jaki to daje korzy艣ci. Wchodz膮c w dialog z rozm贸wcami A i B, wykreowanymi przez sztuczn膮 inteligencj臋, mog臋 g艂臋biej wej艣膰 we w艂asne my艣lenie/pisanie/rozumienie nie tylko w艂asnego tekstu, ale ca艂ej prze偶ywanej/do艣wiadczanej rzeczywisto艣ci.
Zdaj臋 sobie spraw臋, 偶e zn贸w zdenerwuj臋/zez艂oszcz臋 (nara偶臋 si臋) moj膮 wspania艂膮 historyczn膮 wsp贸lnot臋 lokaln膮 w Rzeczpospolitej Norwidowskiej. Ale czy偶 nie po to 偶yj臋. 呕eby tak偶e by膰 bod藕cem rozwojowym dla niej. Tak jest stworzony - i po to - cz艂owiek. Jest to tak偶e wyra偶one expressis verbis przez ukochanego Papie偶a-Polaka. .... "cz艂owiek ma do spe艂nienia na ziemi misj臋: g艂osi膰 prawd臋 o sobie i 艣wiecie" (JPII, Pami臋膰 i to偶samo艣膰, bryk).
Cz艂owiek zamkni臋ty, zablokowany na dialog (albo zawistny, m艣ciwy) temu si臋 sprzeciwia. Niestety.
A tu prawie to samo, ale ze szczeg贸lnym adresem do nauczycieli-wychowawc贸w (rzeczywistych dusz-pasterzy we wsp贸艂czesnym 艣wiecie i - tak偶e - Polsce) - James E. Marcia definiowa艂 to偶samo艣膰 jako „wewn臋trzn膮, skonstruowan膮 przez samego siebie, dynamiczn膮 organizacj臋 pop臋d贸w, zdolno艣ci, przekona艅 i historii 偶ycia jednostki” To nie teologia Wojty艂y, ale nauka, psychologia, medycyna... "Teoria rozwoju Jamesa Marcii g艂osi, 偶e to偶samo艣膰 wynika z serii wybor贸w dokonywanych przez ludzi, zwykle w okresie dojrzewania . Wybory te, dotycz膮ce tego, jakie ideologie, zawody, zwi膮zki, hobby i p艂cie dana osoba w艂膮czy艂a do swojej to偶samo艣ci, s膮 uwarunkowane konfliktem i zaanga偶owaniem." 4 dni - 艂atwiej mi napisa膰 co艣, ni偶 potem obrobi膰 komuterowo.
Sztuka (zapis) 艣wi臋towania 80-lecia szko艂y... i jedno艣ci ponadpokoleniowej
/pokoleniom mojego liceum w Legionowie/
wraca艂em w euforycznym nastroju
pomimo kork贸w ulicznych i rob贸t drogowych
rozrzucaj膮c pieni膮dze po sklepach
na dalsze 艣wi臋towanie rodzinne nawet ps贸w i kota
nic nie by艂o wtedy w stanie zgasi膰 mego ducha
siadam po powrocie do klawiatury
pomny 偶yciowym do艣wiadczeniem
偶e nastroje ulatuj膮
w polityce nazywa si臋 to przykrywaniem
jednej sprawy i emocji drug膮
dbaj膮 o to zw艂aszcza przeciwni partyjnie
zapisz co prze偶ywasz co ci si臋 objawia
teraz bo za chwil臋 mo偶e znikn膮膰
przykryte k艂opotem zmartwieniem problemem
co takiego zdarzy艂o si臋 w Legionowie
co nazw臋 wydarzeniem wielkiego daru
we wsp贸lnocie 艂atwej do definiowania
cho膰 kamery aparaty i-pody itd
wszystko rejestrowa艂y
ja daj臋 opis od innej niecyfrowej strony
prze偶y膰 do艣wiadczania podmiotu osoby
prac膮 w pocie swego czo艂a jak m贸wi Norwid
mo偶e tak膮 potrzeb臋 odziedziczy艂em
jest we mnie procent-kropla Boles艂awa Prusa
siostr膮 (by艂a cioteczn膮) zwa艂 moj膮 prababci臋
ich przyja藕艅 i za偶y艂o艣膰 trwa艂a ca艂e 偶ycie
ba jest wsp贸艂bohaterk膮 'Grzech贸w dzieci艅stwa'
babci臋 Emili臋 nazywa艂 siostrzeniczk膮
ona jej siostry i bracia m贸wili Ciocia G艂owasia
do wdowy w przyja藕ni do ko艅ca
ich brat zaprojektowa艂 gr贸b Pisarza i tablic臋
tablica jest w ko艣ciele z sercem Chopina
(ale tak偶e pomnik Kili艅skiego
i p艂askorze藕ba Orl膮t 1920 na Pow膮zkach
przy kt贸rych przysi臋g臋 sk艂adali 偶o艂nierze AK)
brat babci zgin膮艂 w Katyniu i inny krewny
zwyci臋stwem nad czasem s膮 pokolenia
i ma艂a Emilia Kapaon 偶yje dzisiaj w Edynburgu
niepomna jeszcze swego miejsca w rodzinie
kto艣 kiedy艣 musia艂 b臋dzie jej t艂umaczy膰
historia nie ko艅czy si臋 z nami
ani nawet z kochanymi wnukami
dlaczego ja to pisz臋 wr臋cz testamentalnie
bo wszyscy sk膮d艣 偶e艣my si臋 wzi臋li
dzi艣 po DNA wiele da si臋 zbada膰
dziedziczymy 艣wiadomie i nie艣wiadomie
biologiczn膮 natur膮 i istot膮 kultury
mo偶na m贸wi膰 o wi臋ziach w wielkiej rodzinie
a ja w tym pisaniu/prze偶ywaniu jestem ca艂y
w Legionowie zrozumia艂em wsp贸lnot臋
kt贸rej mo偶emy by膰 cz膮stk膮 tylko dobrowolnie
przyjmuj膮c jaki艣 szczeg贸lny dar/cech臋/aspekt
zamieszkania idea艂贸w tradycji pi臋kna-dobra-prawdy
we wsp贸lnocie najwa偶niejszy jest dawca owego daru...
dzi艣 poszed艂em o krok dalej
zaryzykuj臋 tez臋 偶e bez wsp贸lnoty nie ma wydarze艅
(od dawna wiem 偶e bez dialogu nie ma wsp贸lnot
mo偶e by膰 tylko potencja艂 na ni膮 czyli in spe)
tak wykreowani jeste艣my jako homo sapiens
cz艂owiek to ten kto zna siebie
od wyroczni w Tebach po Jana Paw艂a II
to prawda ju偶 encyklikalna w kulturze
pod koniec dorzuci艂 papie偶 (ten od wiary i rozumu)
w spotkaniu z przyjaci贸艂mi fenomenologami
偶e takie poznanie by艂o przygod膮 intelektualn膮
fascynuj膮cym przedsi臋wzi臋ciem
pozwalaj膮cym dotrze膰 do sedna rzeczywisto艣ci
aspekt贸w istotowych i konstytutywnych prawdy
bez schemat贸w i uprzedze艅
**
dobrze 偶e zacz膮艂em wczoraj (od razu)
nowy dzie艅 ma nowe zadania (z wnukami)
(rodzice z dzie膰mi babcie dziadkowie z wnukami
to dla mnie najrado艣niejsze wsz臋dzie spotkania
gdy widz臋 na ulicach to si臋 rozpromieniam
bo co do polityk贸w i aktywist贸w to nie zawsze)
pami臋tam co wczoraj zaiskrzy艂o i zosta艂o
pr贸buj臋 odtworzy膰 prze偶ycia podmiotu
spotkania wybijaj膮 na plan pierwszy
pierwsze ju偶 po drodze na msz臋 uroczyst膮
profesora bardzo telewizyjnego
kiedy艣 poznanego w owym ko艣ciele
nieznan膮 mi kolej膮 losu
w艂a艣nie tam zaplanowano msz臋 odprawi膰
cho膰 jest bli偶szy od liceum
i ja gapa najpierw do niego si臋 uda艂em
znan膮 mi kolej膮 losu pozna艂em 贸w ko艣ci贸艂
stan wojenny zrobi艂 mnie w nim katechet膮
zagarn膮艂 wprost z Solidarno艣ci
aby by膰 w 贸w czas z polsk膮 m艂odzie偶膮
(w miejscu jego poprzednika by艂em ochrzczony)
kumpli licealnych zasta艂em na ostatniej 艂awce
mog艂em si臋 dosi膮艣膰 r贸wie艣ny wielu sprawom
cho膰 nie tak jak oni w bia艂ych koszulach
nasza m艂odo艣膰 jest opisana w dw贸ch ksi膮偶kach
w '呕alu' Mariusza Kraszewskiego
i '膯wiczeniach z istnienia' Mirka Oleksiaka
ta druga dost臋pna tylko w Internecie
spotkali艣my pierwszego prezydenta miasta
jego nast臋pc臋 obecnie starost臋
(najnowszego jeszcze nie pozna艂em)
w hali sportowej w dalszej cz臋艣ci i ministra
tak si臋 nasze losy dzia艂y w pokoleniach
to nie koniec spotka艅
musz臋 wspomnie膰 g艂贸wnego celebransa biskupa
kt贸rego pami臋tam gdy by艂 kanclerzem kurii
i on wtedy zna艂 mnie dobrze w贸jta I kadencji
przemarsz z hali sportowej do liceum epicki
z uczniowsk膮 orkiestr膮 na przodzie
z asyst膮 policji stra偶y i medyk贸w
kojarzy mi si臋 a偶 z Nowym Yorkiem
(jak nie wspomnie膰 tu siostry absolwentki LO
jednego z pierwszych rocznik贸w w Legionowie
kt贸ra broni艂a Konstytucji USA (agent w FBI)
jako pierwsza z dawnej wschodniej Europy
z dawnej mojej klasy przyby艂o dziesi臋膰 os贸b
Marcin pewnie najdalej a偶 z Kujaw
br膮zowy mistrz junior贸w Europy w judo
ale wspomn臋 i kamrata z 艂awki
kt贸ry by艂 na Igrzyskach Olimpiady w Monachium
w ramach jakiego艣 programu m艂odzie偶y
nim nauczy艂 p贸艂 klasy 偶eglowania
(byli艣my zwyk艂膮 niezwyk艂膮 klas膮
z kt贸rej 14 os贸b posz艂o kiedy艣 na pielgrzymk臋
co dzi艣 chyba ju偶 si臋 nie zdarzy)
Mirka wspomnia艂em wszed艂 w now膮 misj臋 szko艂y
absolwencko-testamentaln膮 w艂a艣nie
zaproponowa艂 testament dar od absolwent贸w
ponad pokoleniowy Spo艂eczny Fundusz Stypendialny
pracowicie sp臋dza czas emerytury
haruje wr臋cz nad tym od miesi臋cy
on by艂y dyrektor mened偶er tancerz i trener koni
nie popu艣ci 偶adnej sprawy kt贸rej si臋 podejmie
mo偶e mie膰 to po dziadku legioni艣cie Marsza艂ka
wszyscy co艣 dziedziczymy
nie ka偶da-ka偶dy nad tym reflektuje
a nikt nie jest sob膮 inaczej
ni偶 z pokolenia na pokolenie
genetycznie kulturowo w ca艂o艣ci jedno艣ci
zwa膰 to mo偶na to偶samo艣ci膮
tak偶e samo艣wiadomo艣ci膮
dziejopisem sta艂em si臋 wersowanym jakby
bo tak 艂atwiej i kr贸cej wszystko wyra偶臋
Mirek rozda艂 dziesi膮tki list贸w intencyjnych
Grzesiek z nim dzielnie si臋 trudzi
wszak biznesman mened偶er od wysokich marek
kiedy艣 wprowadzi艂 na rynek z partnerem 'Tw贸j Styl'
je偶d偶膮 po szko艂ach firmach instytucjach
spotykaj膮 rozmawiaj膮 przekonuj膮
jakby misjonarze wielkiej sprawy
od czasu kanclerza Zamoyskiego nam znanej
偶e przysz艂o艣膰 zale偶y od m艂odzie偶y (wy)chowania
takie b臋d膮 rzeczypospolite jako my
absolwenci szk贸艂 wszelakich we wsiach i miastach
jak nasze organizacje nieprzeliczone
realizuj膮ce wed艂ug swych misji i talent贸w
dobro wsp贸lne
tak widzia艂 kiedy艣 Ameryk臋 Alexis de Tocqueville
ponad si艂臋 gospodarki i armii
na sal臋 gimnastyczn膮 uroczysto艣膰 si臋 przenios艂a
i niespodzianka wysz艂a nowa na spotkanie
czy poznajesz nas spyta艂y dwie dziewczyny-panie
zawstydzaj膮c mnie ch艂opa z wiejskiej g艂uszy
twarze sk膮dsi艣 znajome bliskie
ale przecie偶 nie z moich czas贸w szkolnych
bo z czas贸w poszkolnych katechetyczno-ko艣cielnych
z wielkich prze偶y膰 do艣wiadcze艅 egzystencjalnych
spotka艅 nocy czuwa艅 ekumenii w Kodniu i tak dalej
lecz szkolny jubileusz mieli艣my wsp贸lny
kt贸ry wskazuje nam drog臋 (sztuk臋) 艣wi臋towania
najwi臋kszym jego atutem by艂a m艂odzie偶
graj膮ca 艣piewaj膮ca komentuj膮ca rozta艅czona
radosna w sobie dla nas za艣 czasem do rozrzewnienia
wierz膮ca w swoje si艂y witalne i talenty
jak dawni absolwenci na scenie 偶ycia
Artur 呕mijewski Malwina Smarzek i podobni
膰wiczenia z istnienia s膮 cudowne
odkrywamy za ka偶dym nowym spotkaniem
kt贸re zacz臋艂y si臋 od 50-tki po maturze
bo cho膰 staro艣膰 wchodzi nam na karki
my ci膮gle ci sami
jak kiedy si臋 poznali艣my w klasach LO
a niekt贸rzy nawet w szkole podstawowej
to偶samo艣膰 jest naszym wsp贸lnym imieniem
kto j膮 odkrywa (wszed艂 na t臋 drog臋)
skarb zdobywa ponad wszelkimi skarbami
'tam skarb tw贸j gdzie serce twoje (duch dusza)'
kto ty jeste艣 siostro bracie i ja kim偶e
Polak ma艂y du偶y m艂ody stary
b艂ogos艂awiony tak偶e czasem szko艂y i przyja藕ni
a 偶e dziejopisem sta艂em si臋 wersowanym
wszystko w sercu zachowuj臋 i rozwa偶am
tak jak chwalebne wydarzenie w dziejach gminy
- miejscu obecnego zamieszkania (i pokole艅)
Strach贸wki z roku 1788
kiedy nasz 10-letni mieszkaniec Sobieski
stan膮艂 w imieniu rodu i przem贸wi艂 przed kr贸lem
kt贸remu zawdzi臋czamy Konstytucj臋 3 Maja 1791
pomimo jego przywar i grzech贸w
(w dworze Sobieskich poznali si臋 Norwidowie)
m艂ody (lat 10) Sobieski z naszej wsi i gminy
nie przemawia艂 na 80-lecie swej szko艂y
(ta czeka艂a dopiero na niego jak si臋 okaza艂o)
ale na ods艂oni臋ciu pomnika Kr贸la Jana III
kr贸l zachwycony m艂odym m贸wc膮
wzi膮艂 go na sw贸j wikt i opierunek
do s艂awnej Szko艂y Rycerskiej
a wszystko opisa艂 kr贸lewski pisarz-dziejopis
ojciec polskiego klasycyzmu Adam Naruszewicz
st膮d znamy ten (ich) wk艂ad w nasz膮 to偶samo艣膰
tak偶e moj膮
legionowskiego absolwenta (matura 1972)
(brata innych absolwentek ojca absolwenta
w sumie nasze liceum ko艅czy艂o 7 Kapaon贸w)
katechety stanu wojennego w Legionowie
w贸jta I kadencji odnowionej samorz膮dno艣ci
odkrywcy promotora Rzeczpospolitej Norwidowskiej
na wiecznej rzeczy pami膮tk臋. Amen
ps
kiedy艣 trzeba sko艅czy膰
偶eby nie przesadzi膰
bo ja m贸g艂bym tak ci膮gn膮膰 po rok 1740
w ka偶dej Polsce/Polaku Polska si臋 odbija
po Zenit Wszechdoskona艂o艣ci dziej贸w/bytu
Cz臋艣膰 II
A Tapestry of Memory and Identity
Speaker A - Okay, let's unpack this. Imagine experiencing something truly wonderful. And events so rich with emotion and connection that you feel this immediate almost urgent need to capture it. If we don’t do it right away, it might just disappear in a moment.
Speaker B - Right, that's pretty much the starting point for our source material today, isn't it?
A - Exactly.
B - It's a deeply personal reflection from someone kind of grappling with memory, identity, history, all sparked by a recent gathering of regional polling.
A - And you can really think of this source as a kind of tapestry.
B - It's woven from personal moments, deep family history, cultural threads, it's very subjective. A personal account looking at things from a non-digital angle, as they put it.
B - Yeah, contrasting it with just recording facts with a camera phone. This is about the feeling.
A - So our mission today is to explore this tapestry together.
B - We want to help you pull out the most important sort of nuggets of knowledge and insight. And understand what connects us to the past.
A - Maybe see how these different layers build our own sense of self and community too.
B - Okay, so the author begins describing the return from the event in Legionowo, in an absolutely healing mood.
A - Yes, he soars really high.
B - He mentioned dealing with traffic, road works, the usual stuff, but nothing can touch that mood.
A - Not at all, and they're even like spontaneously shopping afterwards, buying things for a family celebration. Scattering money is how they put it, getting treats for everyone.
B - Including animals. It shows this intense feeling, yes, yes, and the immediate need to write it all down.
A - Why so urgent?
B - The author attributes it to life experience and that's why he sits down immediately after returning to the keyboard, because the moods are evaporating.
A - Anything can destroy it. We know from politics a certain psychological mechanism, covering up one issue with another. The things on the surface seem more important, and certainly occupy us more.
B - I see one story connecting with another.
A - Exactly. So the essence of insight is the idea that you have to capture what you are experiencing, what is being revealed to you in the moment.
B - Because it will just disappear.
A - Exactly. Covered up by another hassle, another worry, or just the rush of everyday life. That's a really strong argument for valuing this subjective experience as such.
B - Absolutely. And they contrast this personal way of experiencing and recording events, from another digital side, with all of our modern digital tools.
A - Like cameras, phones, iPods, things that just objectively record what happened.
B - Yes, but the feeling itself is little or not accessible to digital devices. It has to be actively captured and recorded by the conscious subject of the experience.
A - OK, so let's dig into this reflection. Source starts to explore personal roots. What we inherit.
B - And here, well, this is really fascinating. This can only be achieved by the work in sweat of one's brow, as the poet Norwid wrote.
A - The author admits that he may have inherited this need from his ancestors.
B - His great-grandmother was the sister (cousin) of the great Polish writer Aleksander G艂owacki, known by his literary pseudonym Boles艂aw Prus.
A - He said that their friendship and intimacy lasted their entire lives. She is even the heroine of one of his stories, entitled "Sins of Childhood" (European Classics).
B - Prus called the author's grandmother Emilia and her siblings nieces. And they called the writer's widow Aunt G艂owasia (from G艂owacki, her husband's surname).
A - Their brother designed the Writer's grave and the commemorative plaque, which is located in the church with Chopin's heart, in Warsaw.
B - But also the Kili艅ski monument and the bas-relief of the Eaglets 1920 at Pow膮zki at which the AK soldiers took an oath).
A - As far as I remember, his grandmother's brother died in Katyn and another relative
B - Yes, that's all true. Prus is a huge figure in Polish literature. And our author's great-grandmother was actually his cousin. Influencing (co-creating) his everyday life and marriage.
A - It's a pretty incredible, it's just such a deep bond.
B - Wow, a direct connection.
A - And apparently proceed friends with the Prus-Glowacki widow, right up until her death.
B - So the connections keep going.
A - Yeah, and the legacy extends beyond just this personal ties, right?
B - There's an artistic link too.
A - That's right.
B - The brother of the author's grandmother, Emilia, designed the Writer's grave and a commemorative plaque, which is located in the same church in Warsaw where the urn with Chopin's heart is located.
A - These act like huge historical resonance there.
B - But the connections, they just keep branching out.
A - The same brother-sculptor also designed the Kili艅ski monument. Kili艅ski was the leader of the Warsaw burghers in the Ko艣ciuszko Uprising. And also the bas-relief at Pow膮zki Cemetery. The one dedicated to (the Eaglets) the young defenders of Warsaw from 1920, where AK soldiers (underground army during World War II) took an oath. Pow膮zki is a symbolic place and an extremely important cemetery
B - Okay, another important historical thing.
A - So this one relative was deeply connected through his art to these key figures, moments, and places in Polish history.
B - That's quite a legacy.
A - And an incredible legacy, but the source mentions that it's also tinged with tragedy.
B - Yeah, because another brother and another relative died in Katyn. Ah, Katyn, the Soviet massacre of Polish officers and intellectuals during the war.
A - That's right, learning that two family members were victims there. It has this incredibly somber significant layer to the whole inherited history.
B - Definitely.
A - And the author reflects on this, sort of presenting the idea that generations themselves are a kind of victory over time.
B - And introduce his young grandchildren Emilia Kapaon who lives in Edinburgh now. She has the same name and surname as his greatgrandmother (1875-1964), but not yet mindful of her place in the family.
A - So the implication is this history needs to be passed on and explained to her.
B - Exactly. Because, as the second one emphasizes, history doesn’t just end with us.
A - Or even with our children or grandchildren, it continues.
B - In this heading, this sense of connection in time is why the author feels he is writing this text to many minds, like a testament.
A - Exactly, something to convey important truths to those who come after us.
B - The author emphasizes, you know, we all come from somewhere.
A - It's not only to intrigue?!
B - No, although they do mention the possibilities of the present.
A - Yes. But here we focus more on what we inherit consciously and unconsciously. Through biology, of course (DNA carries genetic information). But also through the essence of our culture, our pure history.
B - Deeper connections within the broader human family.
A - Yes.
B - The author feels fully present in the entire experience.
A - Both the event itself and the act of writing about it.
B - So this reflection on memory and history seems to have really shaped the author's understanding of community, especially after that we need to know all of that.
A - It seems so.
B - And their definition of community is quite specific.
A - How do they see it?
B - It's fundamentally about voluntary participation.
A - He wrote, that he had understood what is the real (spiritually founded) community in Legionowo.
B - You can only really be part of a community if you freely choose to accept some special gift or trait or ideal in this what constitues that commune. For example, living in a given area not as an insignificant circumstance, but a consciously made decision, a chosen gift. Inhabiting the ideals of the tradition of beauty-goodness-truth in the community the most important is the giver of that gift.
A - Things like that, yeah.
B - And the source emphasizes that the giver of this gift or the source of this shared ideal is really key.
A - Okay, and they build on this with quite a significant idea, don't they?
B - They do, a big thesis. Without community, there are no meaningful events in our lives.
A - No events without community. Wow.
B - Yes. They say that without true dialogue there is no community.
A - Then you can only have the potential for community.
B - They use the Latin term in spe.
A - In hope. Or in potential.
B - And this connects to the broader philosophical point that the author makes about how we were created as homo sapiens.
A - Literally, a man who knows himself.
B - Exactly.
A - And he traces this idea all the way back to the ancient Theban Oracle, all the way back to John Paul II.
B - JPII, what did he say about that?
A - Well, JPII clearly described this self-knowledge at a meeting with phenomenologists as a kind of intellectual adventure, a fascinating expedition to grasp the essence of reality, the rules of truth, without prejudices and patterns.
B - So the author suggests that knowing ourselves, where we come from, what we inherit, is connected to our ability to create true community.
A - Seems to be the connection they're making, self-knowledge and community or intertwined.
B - Okay, let's zoom in a bit on the Legionowo gathering itself.
A - The Jubilee.
B - It sounds like mostly a high-school reunion.
A - Largely yes.
B - And the author mentions some specific encounters that really stood out.
A - Like what?
B - Well, one of the first who was meeting up professor described as... very television. Presumably someone will know maybe from TV.
A - Okay, where did they meet?
B - On the way to the mass.
A - And they'd actually got known him before in that very same church.
B - Which lays the location for the author to the mystery of unknown fate but also to their own known path. And what was that known path? It includes becoming a catechist in that church during marshall law.
A - Right, the period of military rule in Poland in the 80s. Yeah, the author says he was sort of seized from his involvement with the solidarity movement to work with Polish youth instead.
B - Wow, and they're about to head there too. As another layer of connection to that specific place.
A - The author also mentioned a reconnecting with old high school friends.
B - Yes, sitting on the last bench together, in white shirts like some others.
A - And the youth of this particular class, their experiences are actually documented.
B - Apparently so yes, in two books, by Mariusz Kraszewski "呕al", and by Mirek Oleksiak "Exercises in Existence", the second one's online.
A - Which thing, any other encounters mentioned local figures?
B - Yes, they met with the first mayor after the introduction of local government in Poland in 1990 and his successor, currently the head of the district.
A - Later, in the sports hall, they also met with an important government minister, a graduate of the same high school.
B - So, then, did the personal and official connections sound quite memorable? And then the grand march of participants from the sports hall to the school building with the youth orchestra in front, accompanied by the police, fire department, paramedics...
A - Oh yes, the author calls it epic.
B - It sounds like a picture from the world-famous parades in New York.
A - Exactly.
B - Thanks, quite a picture, right?
A - Really.
B - And there was also a detail about the author's sister.
A - Another graduate of the school.
B - Yes, a graduate in the first years.
A - And she became an FBI agent in the USA.
B - Wow.
A - And apparently the first person from the former Eastern Europe to defend the US Constitution. This role is quite an extraordinary achievement.
B - And returning to the author's class at the reunion and how many people attended, it is extraordinary.
A - There were ten people from their specific age group there.
B - And are there any stories that stand out among them?
A - Well, he mentioned Marcin, who came the furthest from Kujawy. He used to be a junior European judo champion.
B - Okay, impressive.
A - And another friend from the bench, as he put it, was part of the youth program at the Munich Olympics and later taught sailing to almost half the class.
B - So quite talented people.
A - The author describes the class as ordinary but extraordinary, too.
B - What do they mean?
A - I think it highlights a certain spirit. He mentioned that 14 of them once went on a walking pilgrimage to Cz臋stochowa.
B - Something that they thought might seem less likely for the whole class today.
A - A different kind of shared experience, perhaps?
B - Maybe.
A - And then there was this unexpected meeting.
B - Oh, who went?
A - Two women.
B - Giving every penny, which in this sense can be translated as girly ladies, capturing that sense of seeing them as adults but remembering their youth.
A - Did the author recognize them from school?
B - No, it was a surprise, not from school, but after school. Since the author was a catechist involved in church activities.
A - So connections made later through sharing deeper experiences.
B - Exactly.
A - Link to existential discussions, because of the work of a catechist and church activities after school. That is, from great existential experiences: supra-local meetings, night prayer-vigils, ecumenical meetings in Kode艅 and so on.
B - From different generations and experiences, but they had and experienced the school jubilee together. What a supra-generational gift, indeed. And here they were, unexpectedly sharing this school jubilee.
A - Which shows us the way (art) of celebrating, doesn't it?
B - It seems that the same event, the jubilee really resonated, especially the young people involved.
A - Definitely. The author really emphasizes the power of the youth participating, playing music, singing, commenting, dancing.
B - Their joy, their talents, will really show themselves, believing in her vital forces like former graduates on the stage of life ie an very well known Polish actor Artur 呕mijewski, or a volleyball player, member of the Polish National Team in Voleyball Malwina Smarzek.
A - Yes. The whole thing seemed wonderful to the author, being an new example of exercises in existence, or maybe exercises and just existential being. And it seems that this strong sense of community and history did not remain just a feeling, it led to something concrete.
B - Yes, exactly. There was an initiative.
A - It was mentioned in the source.
B - What was it?
A - Mirek, as I mentioned, has entered into a new mission of the school. A testamentary mission of the alumni, or a gift from the alumni, a generational Social Scholarship Fund. He has been working on it for months. He is a former director, manager, dancer and horse trainer and will never give up on any matter he undertakes.
B - Wow. Maybe he actually inherited this character trait from his grandfather, a legionnaire of Marshal Pi艂sudski.
A - And this is an actual gift to support future generations of students, too.
B - That's the idea.
A - And the author really emphasizes Mirek's dedication, his very background director, manager, dancer, horse trainer.
B - Interesting. It brings a back to that core theme, doesn't it? Inheritance.
A - Absolutely. It sort of is right back to that idea that everyone inherits something, traits, history, culture, even if we don't always stop and reflect on it.
B - But the argument is you can't really be yourself except through these connections across the generation. Biological and cultural, all forming a whole.
A - That's identity that self-awareness in a measure.
B - Is this the work of one man, for this Social Scholarship Fund?
A - Oh, no. We must mention here another friend from their class Grzesiek. Grzesiek shares work with Mirek, together they travel around the entire district, visiting schools, meet with institutions, companies, and individuals, collect signatures of support under the letter of intent.
B - Do we know about him?
A - He's described as a businessman, knowledgeable about high end brands. He apparently introduced the magazine 'Tw贸j Styl' to the market with a partner.
B - Okay, so they're bringing different skills to the table. And they're actively working on it now. Acting like missionaries of a great idea.
A - Missionaries, that's strong language.
B - It links to a bigger idea too, doesn't it? Something historical.
A - It does. The other connects it to a well-known idea in Polish history. Attributed to chances of a more risky way back.
B - What's the idea?
A - Essentially, that the future of the Republic, Rzeczpospolitej, depends on the upbringing and education of its youth.
B - We know that wisdom from chancelor Zamoyski (the end of XVI century). He wrote what was to become a well-known saying in the Polish language: “Such are countries, as is the education of their youth”.
A - So, the scholarship fund is a modern embodiment of that old principle.
B - Exactly. It's presented as alumni, recognizing a common good they can contribute to using their own talents and missions.
A - And the author compares this kind of civic action to... took-fill.
B - And he linked it with some observations by Alexis de Tocqueville about the greatness of America. His view that America's strength lies not just in its economy or military, but in its vibrant civic associations.
A - People working together for common goals.
B - That's a strong comparison, but the author doesn't stop at history, does he? He introduces another layer of historical life from his own locality.
A - Yes. And an anecdote from their current commune, Strach贸wka. Described as a glorious event from the distant 1788, yes, it concerns a 10-year-old boy, a local named Micha艂 Sobieski, who spoke on behalf of his family before the king.
B - This king - despite any flaws he may have had - is the one who is associated with the Constitution of May 3, 1791, an important moment in Polish history.
A - Interestingly, the source slips in that the parents of the famous poet Cyprian Norwid met at the Sobieski family manor in Strach贸wka.
B - Small world, deep roots. Definitely. So, to be clear, the boy did not speak at his school jubilee. Awesome, good point. The author clarifies that. His own school jubilee was to come later.
A - The particular event at which he spoke before King Poniatowski was the unveiling of a monument.
B - To which king?
A - To King Jan III Sobieski.
B - Right?
A - A much earlier, very famous Polish king, the one known for the victory over the Turks at Vienna.
B - Ah, okay.
A - So the ten year old Sobieski is speaking at the monument unveiling for the earlier king also called Sobieski.
B - Got it.
A - And how did the current king react?
B - He was apparently delighted. So impressed by the boy's speech that he took him into his personal care, free room and board and... education.
A - Where?
B - At the famous 'Szko艂a Rycerska' (School of Chivalry), of very prestigious military academy back then.
A - Wow, a life-changing moment for that boy.
B - Sparked by speaking out, how do you even know this story?
A - The source of the story is apparently the King's own writer and historian Adam Naruszewicz, a major figure himself, often called the father of Polish clasicism.
B - So it's a well documented historical anecdote, and the connection the author makes is... This event, this story from their communities past, involving the Sobieski family.
A - That's their contribution to our shared identity today. Included the author's own identity living in Strach贸wka out it's another thread in that tapestry.
B - Sure. He lists and defines his roles as a 1972 graduate of Legionowo High School, brother of four graduate sisters, and father of two graduates (a son and a daughter).
A - Wow, seven people from a family who graduated from the same school. Seven Kapaons. Impressive.
B - That's quite a family connection to one place.
A - He also mentioned that he was a catechist there during martial law. "To be with Polish youth during this difficult time," as his parish priest said at the time. Coincidentally, a jubilee mass was celebrated there.
B - By a twist of fate and democracy, he was also mayor of the Strach贸wka commune of the first term of Polish self-government after communism. There is a common thread in this historic-cultural fabric, between weave in tapestry in the Polish commune and the parish.
A - Connecting their community with the poet Norwid and the legacy of his numerous masterpieces they call this concept the Norwid Republic. Author is the discoverer and promoter of this idea.
B - All of this is part of their history.
A - Recorded, as they say.
B - Now and for everlasting memory. Amen.
A - It really reinforces the idea that identity is not just one simple thing.
B - It's our collective name, built layer by layer.
A - And whoever takes the time to uncover it, to really dig into it, will find treasure.
B - I keep saying that, right?
A - Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. This statement s taken from the Bible, of course (Mt, 6.21)
B - So when we step back, what does it all mean?
A - It's a deep dive into one person's very personal reflection.
B - It really shows us that identity is not some fixed point, right?
A - Not at all. It's a rich, evolving fabric. We definitely come from your own experiences.
B - But also, most importantly, from deep family history.
A - Going back maybe centuries to characters like Prus, marked through National Tragedy, like Katy艅.
B - Shaped by the communities you belong to or have belonged to, like in high school in Legionowo, or even by the historical roots hidden beneath where you live today.
A - Like this surprising story from Strach贸wki.
B - Yes. Identity is inherited, absolutely.
A - Through genes, through culture. "From generation to generation".
B - But this source strongly suggests that it is also something that you have to actively discover.
A - Something that you reflect on, maybe even contribute to.
B - Exactly.
A - Through your actions, whether it's something big, like helping to start a scholarship fund, or just by keeping and thinking about your own history, your own connections.
B - It's about understanding yourself, as part of this much larger, ongoing narrative, right?
A - Of history, of human experience.
B - That seems to be the crux of the message.
A - And as the author suggests at the end.
B - Maybe each of us, the whole history of our place, our history, our connections.
A - Maybe it's amazing how that bounces back, moving toward its own peak, its own zenith.
B - It really makes you think about what threads really make up your unique tapestry? How do you discover your own identity?
A - Not just what happens to you, but also through the context of your amily history, your communities, the history of places that are important to you. And maybe consider this.
B - If others write that without community there are no truly significant events in our lives.
A - Can you think of moments or accomplishments in your life? That we are truly possible only because you belong to something through your connection to others.
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